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		<title>By: Sister Phyl</title>
		<link>http://www.ldscio.org/2007/01/02/4-speak-up/comment-page-1/#comment-346</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Phyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 01:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you read &quot;The leadership secrets of Colin Powell&quot; by Oren Harari? Colin also wants &quot;push back&quot;, honesty, and &quot;what can I do to make your job easier?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you read &#8220;The leadership secrets of Colin Powell&#8221; by Oren Harari? Colin also wants &#8220;push back&#8221;, honesty, and &#8220;what can I do to make your job easier?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Russell</title>
		<link>http://www.ldscio.org/2007/01/02/4-speak-up/comment-page-1/#comment-318</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 03:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Brother Dehlin,

I read most all of your blog a couple of days ago.  I wanted to comment then, but it didn&#039;t feel right.  As I sat journalling this evening I felt it was time to write.  I originally was going to comment on the various entries individually.  But as this one is appropriately titled &quot;Speak Up&quot;, it all conveniently fits under one umbrella.  I hope it simplifies your life just a bit this way.

I joined the Church four years ago.  For the last eight years, or so, I&#039;ve been working in IT.  I&#039;m a very critical, analytical thinker raised in very agnostic circumstances by very fine, morally strong parents with an air of sarcasm enclosing anything that smacked of organized religion.  The fact that our Father  opened my heart through this mix of skepticism and sarcasm is nothing less than a miracle for which I&#039;m eternally grateful.

The work of your department played some part in that.  When I was &quot;investigating&quot; one of the things that resonated with my own work was the care given to the human-computer interaction on your various websites.  If you had produced a rough-cut, hobbyist-level site it would have left another hurdle for my testimony.  I would&#039;ve had to answer, &quot;Why does the Lord allow his Church to be mediocre in the most important job I can think of, my own?&quot;

I can safely say, there was no hurdle.  The site was beautiful, easy to use, and accessible.  It was obvious that your department strove to meet real people with useful software that begins to &quot;disappear&quot; as you use it.

Additionally, I sparked an interest in another IT friend of mine by bearing my new and sensitive testimony, including a mention of your websites.  He spent the next night devouring everything about fundamental doctrine therein.  He, too, has joined the Church with the website(s) as a part of the bridge.

Thank you.

I would especially like to thank whomever put together the Flash interactive music player.  Very classy, useful.  I was proud to share the simplified URI, lds.org/cm with my Ward choir.  BTW, simplifying your URIs in all places would be a boon.

To this blog, I respect you very much for practicing what you preach and speaking up.  When things are transparent (like when user-interfaces &quot;disappear&quot;) they are easier to trust.

So, finally, thank you, your staff, and your predecessor for a job well done.  I&#039;d like to finish with some brief comment on your blog posts.

1: World Class I.T. - In the world, not of the world.  &#039;Tis a world-wide church.  For the Lord, you have no choice but to be world-class from the world&#039;s eyes.  But you should also know and share that it&#039;s got to be above &quot;world&quot;-class.  I would remind you of the Savior&#039;s words, &quot;be ye therefore perfect...&quot;

2: Receive Revelation - One trouble (and boon) with much technology is that we learn by example.  Revelation is critical if you&#039;re going to meet goal #1 and transcend your worldly examples.  We have no example of how the Lord would write code, but I have my own feelings on that one.  Good article.

3: Know My Customer - In writing it&#039;s &quot;know your audience&quot;.  Very important. It&#039;s the occupational version of, &quot;Why are we here?&quot;  This is still only the worldly perspective, however.  I would add to all believing people of faith, know your Judge/Maker/Savior.  I know that the Lord expects much of me in my job.  He&#039;s an ever present audience.  Plus, I&#039;m an example to others.  Every person working in IT everywhere is representing the Savior as they solve information-related problems.  For you this &quot;be an example&quot; feeling has got to be huge.  I really wanted you to hear my own success story above.  Again, thanks.

4: Speak Up - It&#039;s nice to see somebody in as big of shoes as yours say &quot;Obviously I’m not as approachable as I think I am if people aren’t willing to always speak their minds. But it’s something we’re trying consciously to improve.&quot;  Thanks for keeping humble.  Communication is hard.  Unity is difficult.  But oh so worth it when it happens.

Open Source - Open source has many promises beyond what you list.  Like many terms, the problem with the term &quot;open source&quot; is that it agglomerates too many smaller concepts making it hard to form value statements on it.  I could go on and on about the pros and the cons related to it, but will spare you.  I would encourage you to break it down into smaller pieces and then judge.  From my own view, and back to transparency being easier to trust, there is just some information that really should be open.

I do hope you read this.  Feel free to share it.  Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Brother Dehlin,</p>
<p>I read most all of your blog a couple of days ago.  I wanted to comment then, but it didn&#8217;t feel right.  As I sat journalling this evening I felt it was time to write.  I originally was going to comment on the various entries individually.  But as this one is appropriately titled &#8220;Speak Up&#8221;, it all conveniently fits under one umbrella.  I hope it simplifies your life just a bit this way.</p>
<p>I joined the Church four years ago.  For the last eight years, or so, I&#8217;ve been working in IT.  I&#8217;m a very critical, analytical thinker raised in very agnostic circumstances by very fine, morally strong parents with an air of sarcasm enclosing anything that smacked of organized religion.  The fact that our Father  opened my heart through this mix of skepticism and sarcasm is nothing less than a miracle for which I&#8217;m eternally grateful.</p>
<p>The work of your department played some part in that.  When I was &#8220;investigating&#8221; one of the things that resonated with my own work was the care given to the human-computer interaction on your various websites.  If you had produced a rough-cut, hobbyist-level site it would have left another hurdle for my testimony.  I would&#8217;ve had to answer, &#8220;Why does the Lord allow his Church to be mediocre in the most important job I can think of, my own?&#8221;</p>
<p>I can safely say, there was no hurdle.  The site was beautiful, easy to use, and accessible.  It was obvious that your department strove to meet real people with useful software that begins to &#8220;disappear&#8221; as you use it.</p>
<p>Additionally, I sparked an interest in another IT friend of mine by bearing my new and sensitive testimony, including a mention of your websites.  He spent the next night devouring everything about fundamental doctrine therein.  He, too, has joined the Church with the website(s) as a part of the bridge.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>I would especially like to thank whomever put together the Flash interactive music player.  Very classy, useful.  I was proud to share the simplified URI, lds.org/cm with my Ward choir.  BTW, simplifying your URIs in all places would be a boon.</p>
<p>To this blog, I respect you very much for practicing what you preach and speaking up.  When things are transparent (like when user-interfaces &#8220;disappear&#8221;) they are easier to trust.</p>
<p>So, finally, thank you, your staff, and your predecessor for a job well done.  I&#8217;d like to finish with some brief comment on your blog posts.</p>
<p>1: World Class I.T. &#8211; In the world, not of the world.  &#8216;Tis a world-wide church.  For the Lord, you have no choice but to be world-class from the world&#8217;s eyes.  But you should also know and share that it&#8217;s got to be above &#8220;world&#8221;-class.  I would remind you of the Savior&#8217;s words, &#8220;be ye therefore perfect&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>2: Receive Revelation &#8211; One trouble (and boon) with much technology is that we learn by example.  Revelation is critical if you&#8217;re going to meet goal #1 and transcend your worldly examples.  We have no example of how the Lord would write code, but I have my own feelings on that one.  Good article.</p>
<p>3: Know My Customer &#8211; In writing it&#8217;s &#8220;know your audience&#8221;.  Very important. It&#8217;s the occupational version of, &#8220;Why are we here?&#8221;  This is still only the worldly perspective, however.  I would add to all believing people of faith, know your Judge/Maker/Savior.  I know that the Lord expects much of me in my job.  He&#8217;s an ever present audience.  Plus, I&#8217;m an example to others.  Every person working in IT everywhere is representing the Savior as they solve information-related problems.  For you this &#8220;be an example&#8221; feeling has got to be huge.  I really wanted you to hear my own success story above.  Again, thanks.</p>
<p>4: Speak Up &#8211; It&#8217;s nice to see somebody in as big of shoes as yours say &#8220;Obviously I’m not as approachable as I think I am if people aren’t willing to always speak their minds. But it’s something we’re trying consciously to improve.&#8221;  Thanks for keeping humble.  Communication is hard.  Unity is difficult.  But oh so worth it when it happens.</p>
<p>Open Source &#8211; Open source has many promises beyond what you list.  Like many terms, the problem with the term &#8220;open source&#8221; is that it agglomerates too many smaller concepts making it hard to form value statements on it.  I could go on and on about the pros and the cons related to it, but will spare you.  I would encourage you to break it down into smaller pieces and then judge.  From my own view, and back to transparency being easier to trust, there is just some information that really should be open.</p>
<p>I do hope you read this.  Feel free to share it.  Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.ldscio.org/2007/01/02/4-speak-up/comment-page-1/#comment-317</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 02:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t read many of the responses in this chain.  Still, I would like to explain how I arrived here and offer a suggestion.  I followed links from the official lds.org site to this chain.  I read the learning experiences of both manager and employees.  While necessary, and I&#039;m sure they lead eventually to an uplifting outcome, the remarks here are opinions of individuals, which don&#039;t appear to represent the First Presidency.  I would just ask that you consider the effects of placing a link on the Church web site connecting the many who traverse thereby (seeking inspiration of the Lord&#039;s servants) to this blog and the individual learning experiences of this group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t read many of the responses in this chain.  Still, I would like to explain how I arrived here and offer a suggestion.  I followed links from the official lds.org site to this chain.  I read the learning experiences of both manager and employees.  While necessary, and I&#8217;m sure they lead eventually to an uplifting outcome, the remarks here are opinions of individuals, which don&#8217;t appear to represent the First Presidency.  I would just ask that you consider the effects of placing a link on the Church web site connecting the many who traverse thereby (seeking inspiration of the Lord&#8217;s servants) to this blog and the individual learning experiences of this group.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Stevens</title>
		<link>http://www.ldscio.org/2007/01/02/4-speak-up/comment-page-1/#comment-307</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 04:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joel, 

     Isn&#039;t technology great? I&#039;m teaching School in Point Hope Alaska with 5 other member teachers and another member couple making 8 members here in our group. We are just one of the twigs off the Barrow Alaska Branch. On Sunday, we join with the Barrow Branch for Sacrament service using the telephone conference call system and then most of the time have our own Sunday School and Relief Society / Priesthood meeting.
 
   It&#039;s nice being able to receive materials and information on the Internet for lessons and information as some times the mail delivery system is slow up here and we don’t always  them get things on time. 

   One question.....  are the pictures for the lessons available for download? If so, I haven’t been able to find them.

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joel, </p>
<p>     Isn&#8217;t technology great? I&#8217;m teaching School in Point Hope Alaska with 5 other member teachers and another member couple making 8 members here in our group. We are just one of the twigs off the Barrow Alaska Branch. On Sunday, we join with the Barrow Branch for Sacrament service using the telephone conference call system and then most of the time have our own Sunday School and Relief Society / Priesthood meeting.</p>
<p>   It&#8217;s nice being able to receive materials and information on the Internet for lessons and information as some times the mail delivery system is slow up here and we don’t always  them get things on time. </p>
<p>   One question&#8230;..  are the pictures for the lessons available for download? If so, I haven’t been able to find them.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Cousin Kirsten</title>
		<link>http://www.ldscio.org/2007/01/02/4-speak-up/comment-page-1/#comment-297</link>
		<dc:creator>Cousin Kirsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 07:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen Joel</description>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.ldscio.org/2007/01/02/4-speak-up/comment-page-1/#comment-296</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 06:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a beautiful discussion!  As a new counselor in a bishopric, I often find myself naturally thinking crossgrain to the bishop&#039;s expressed feelings to explore the edges and permutations of the subject, but I&#039;m afraid my expressions are sometimes perceived as counterproductive.  Is there a rule of thumb that one could use to make a split-second decision as to whether to speak or remain silent?

On the Mac topic, I applaud the recent advances!  A few questions:

1.  Do you factor in the cost of Windows security maintenance in your cost estimates?

2.  If MLS is written in Java, does that mean it could be easily ported to the Mac if cost or security landscape made it attractive?

3.  Has the church considered moving MLS to the web for units that could utilize it there?  e.g. allow elders quorum presidents to modify hometeaching routes from home, and synchronize with the clerk&#039;s office computer when the synchronization is done.

4.  Regarding PAF, rather than porting PAF to the Mac, has the church considered licensing or buying Reunion from the folks at Leister Productions?  (top-notch Mac genealogy app, no connection to me)

I very much enjoy your blog, thanks for sharing with us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a beautiful discussion!  As a new counselor in a bishopric, I often find myself naturally thinking crossgrain to the bishop&#8217;s expressed feelings to explore the edges and permutations of the subject, but I&#8217;m afraid my expressions are sometimes perceived as counterproductive.  Is there a rule of thumb that one could use to make a split-second decision as to whether to speak or remain silent?</p>
<p>On the Mac topic, I applaud the recent advances!  A few questions:</p>
<p>1.  Do you factor in the cost of Windows security maintenance in your cost estimates?</p>
<p>2.  If MLS is written in Java, does that mean it could be easily ported to the Mac if cost or security landscape made it attractive?</p>
<p>3.  Has the church considered moving MLS to the web for units that could utilize it there?  e.g. allow elders quorum presidents to modify hometeaching routes from home, and synchronize with the clerk&#8217;s office computer when the synchronization is done.</p>
<p>4.  Regarding PAF, rather than porting PAF to the Mac, has the church considered licensing or buying Reunion from the folks at Leister Productions?  (top-notch Mac genealogy app, no connection to me)</p>
<p>I very much enjoy your blog, thanks for sharing with us.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff VanDrimmelen</title>
		<link>http://www.ldscio.org/2007/01/02/4-speak-up/comment-page-1/#comment-285</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff VanDrimmelen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 21:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How grateful I am for a professional blog that links to the scriptures.  Thanks for the example!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How grateful I am for a professional blog that links to the scriptures.  Thanks for the example!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Curtis</title>
		<link>http://www.ldscio.org/2007/01/02/4-speak-up/comment-page-1/#comment-270</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 07:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We all function at different dimensions.  And if we &quot;speak up&quot; and embrace one another&#039;s dimension, we then become a whole.  It&#039;s called &quot;Synergy&quot; in the model we all familiar with.  Things that we could not have brought into concept without the other person!  We need to eventually move away from the thought that our idea will not please or maybe offend our leaders. Also, we need to consider that becoming offended when leadership move in another direction after they have gathered all the pertinent information is useless and not directed toward “you” personally.  Feedback is crucial for BOTH parties and without it the fire will slowly dissipate.  Brother Dehlin, you have quite a creative itinerary!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all function at different dimensions.  And if we &#8220;speak up&#8221; and embrace one another&#8217;s dimension, we then become a whole.  It&#8217;s called &#8220;Synergy&#8221; in the model we all familiar with.  Things that we could not have brought into concept without the other person!  We need to eventually move away from the thought that our idea will not please or maybe offend our leaders. Also, we need to consider that becoming offended when leadership move in another direction after they have gathered all the pertinent information is useless and not directed toward “you” personally.  Feedback is crucial for BOTH parties and without it the fire will slowly dissipate.  Brother Dehlin, you have quite a creative itinerary!</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.ldscio.org/2007/01/02/4-speak-up/comment-page-1/#comment-256</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 23:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think a fear of speaking up in a work environment with one&#039;s leaders is a uniquely LDS phenomenon. &lt;i&gt;Any&lt;/i&gt; hierarchical organization runs the risk of people feeling afraid of &#039;crossing&#039; superiors, especially when there is a perception that one&#039;s job success is controlled to some degree by one&#039;s leader (promotions, job reviews, etc.) I think so much depends on a leader and the work culture and relationships of trust he or she fosters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think a fear of speaking up in a work environment with one&#8217;s leaders is a uniquely LDS phenomenon. <i>Any</i> hierarchical organization runs the risk of people feeling afraid of &#8216;crossing&#8217; superiors, especially when there is a perception that one&#8217;s job success is controlled to some degree by one&#8217;s leader (promotions, job reviews, etc.) I think so much depends on a leader and the work culture and relationships of trust he or she fosters.</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Phyl</title>
		<link>http://www.ldscio.org/2007/01/02/4-speak-up/comment-page-1/#comment-253</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Phyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 20:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorrel says: I do not think it is about you. This is an unfortunate side effect of membership in the LDS Church, where people get the idea that if I push back on you, I am not ’sustaining’ you. This indicates an even more fundamental misunderstanding of the role of giving and taking counsel in our ecclesiastical endeavours.

I whole-heartedly agree with Sorrel Jakins!!!  It seems to be even harder for the sisters to ask questions without the &quot;I am not ’sustaining’ you&quot; or &quot;respecting the priesthood&quot; response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorrel says: I do not think it is about you. This is an unfortunate side effect of membership in the LDS Church, where people get the idea that if I push back on you, I am not ’sustaining’ you. This indicates an even more fundamental misunderstanding of the role of giving and taking counsel in our ecclesiastical endeavours.</p>
<p>I whole-heartedly agree with Sorrel Jakins!!!  It seems to be even harder for the sisters to ask questions without the &#8220;I am not ’sustaining’ you&#8221; or &#8220;respecting the priesthood&#8221; response.</p>
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