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		<title>By: Joel Dehlin: Growing Leaders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel Dehlin: Growing Leaders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a recent post I talked about the need to infuse IT professionals with business, leadership and interpersonal [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 18:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel,

I concur with your thoughts.  However, as someone who has a BS in Comp Sci and has made the transition to management with the hopes of moving up to a C-level (with experience), what advice could you offer some of us who are not as fortunate to work with someone as patient, knowledgeable and willing to train their staff as you are?

I also find that with the lack of time between work, family and church (in no particular order), I no longer have time (or funds) to go back to college to obtain a masters.  Are there perhaps week-long courses you could recommend or books to study in order to achieve a different perspective to complement our newly found positions?

I also look forward to the follow-up post you have spoken of regarding the steps which will help your professionals develop these skills.  

Many thanks!

&lt;em&gt;[Joel: First, make sure you want to move into higher levels of management. Many move up and are sad they did. Second, take on roles (official or unofficial) that allow you to flex your business muscles. Third, let your executive management know what you want and ask how best to get there. Finally, if you don&#039;t get the support you want/need then find someplace that will give it to you.]&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel,</p>
<p>I concur with your thoughts.  However, as someone who has a BS in Comp Sci and has made the transition to management with the hopes of moving up to a C-level (with experience), what advice could you offer some of us who are not as fortunate to work with someone as patient, knowledgeable and willing to train their staff as you are?</p>
<p>I also find that with the lack of time between work, family and church (in no particular order), I no longer have time (or funds) to go back to college to obtain a masters.  Are there perhaps week-long courses you could recommend or books to study in order to achieve a different perspective to complement our newly found positions?</p>
<p>I also look forward to the follow-up post you have spoken of regarding the steps which will help your professionals develop these skills.  </p>
<p>Many thanks!</p>
<p><em>[Joel: First, make sure you want to move into higher levels of management. Many move up and are sad they did. Second, take on roles (official or unofficial) that allow you to flex your business muscles. Third, let your executive management know what you want and ask how best to get there. Finally, if you don't get the support you want/need then find someplace that will give it to you.]</em></p>
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		<title>By: Wade Burt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wade Burt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outstanding point! As an IT Consultant I have learned that my ability to provide true value has almost as much to do with my ability to understand and relate to the business aspect of IT as it has to do with my understanding of the business technology needs and deployment.

As a specialist in Medical IT, EMR, PM, etc., my value to a client comes from being able to understand the pressures they are under - new initiatives like pay for performance from Medicare and other insurance, combined with the usual financial pressures on medical practices - demand efficiencies at every step of this very manual process.

With a ratio of fulltime staff anywhere from 2 to 5 to each physician, it is important to have a solid grasp of Human Resources issues and ergonomics.

With cash flow paramount to a medical practice (an unfortunate fact in today&#039;s medical practice), it is just as important for IT staff to understand the financial impact of every decision relative to workflow.

As a contract Director of IT for several practices and acting Senior Systems Administrator for a major national healthcare insurance company, my ability to show improvement in processes that effect either cashflow or workflow efficiency drives my value and, ultimately, my ability to justify my salary in these organizations.

In my early days as a tech consultant, I was frustrated with what I saw as a lack of willingness to compensate professional IT staff to the level they deserveed. Now I understand it is a matter of being able to show we understand the complex nature of not just the technology, but of the business itself.
I have an Associates Degree in a technical filed (Avionics), but if I were to get the opportunity, I would lean towards Business Management, ending with an MBA. At 50, and with a 2 and 4 year old at home, I am not sure I will get the chance, but my career is already made.

Finally, I must point out I began learning many of these philosophies when I was called as Stake Technology Specialist and was assigned to deploy MLS in our Stake. Now, as Stake Clerk, I can definitely say had I not accepted the Stake Assistant Clerk calling, I don&#039;t believe I would be where I am now. The Lord provides us each with opportunities - callings are part of our career growth as well. I am grateful for all the knowledge the Lord continues to give me.

Those of us who have &quot;made it&quot; owe it to others to spread the knowledge. If we are ever to fully mature as an &quot;industry&quot;, we need to help people think of us (IT) as they do a doctor, lawyer or CPA. In order to accomplish this, we will need to rise to the challenge. I personally have clients who have never seen me wearing anything but a suit and a tie. Many of my referrals have come from clients who appreciate that attitude. It does pay off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outstanding point! As an IT Consultant I have learned that my ability to provide true value has almost as much to do with my ability to understand and relate to the business aspect of IT as it has to do with my understanding of the business technology needs and deployment.</p>
<p>As a specialist in Medical IT, EMR, PM, etc., my value to a client comes from being able to understand the pressures they are under &#8211; new initiatives like pay for performance from Medicare and other insurance, combined with the usual financial pressures on medical practices &#8211; demand efficiencies at every step of this very manual process.</p>
<p>With a ratio of fulltime staff anywhere from 2 to 5 to each physician, it is important to have a solid grasp of Human Resources issues and ergonomics.</p>
<p>With cash flow paramount to a medical practice (an unfortunate fact in today&#8217;s medical practice), it is just as important for IT staff to understand the financial impact of every decision relative to workflow.</p>
<p>As a contract Director of IT for several practices and acting Senior Systems Administrator for a major national healthcare insurance company, my ability to show improvement in processes that effect either cashflow or workflow efficiency drives my value and, ultimately, my ability to justify my salary in these organizations.</p>
<p>In my early days as a tech consultant, I was frustrated with what I saw as a lack of willingness to compensate professional IT staff to the level they deserveed. Now I understand it is a matter of being able to show we understand the complex nature of not just the technology, but of the business itself.<br />
I have an Associates Degree in a technical filed (Avionics), but if I were to get the opportunity, I would lean towards Business Management, ending with an MBA. At 50, and with a 2 and 4 year old at home, I am not sure I will get the chance, but my career is already made.</p>
<p>Finally, I must point out I began learning many of these philosophies when I was called as Stake Technology Specialist and was assigned to deploy MLS in our Stake. Now, as Stake Clerk, I can definitely say had I not accepted the Stake Assistant Clerk calling, I don&#8217;t believe I would be where I am now. The Lord provides us each with opportunities &#8211; callings are part of our career growth as well. I am grateful for all the knowledge the Lord continues to give me.</p>
<p>Those of us who have &#8220;made it&#8221; owe it to others to spread the knowledge. If we are ever to fully mature as an &#8220;industry&#8221;, we need to help people think of us (IT) as they do a doctor, lawyer or CPA. In order to accomplish this, we will need to rise to the challenge. I personally have clients who have never seen me wearing anything but a suit and a tie. Many of my referrals have come from clients who appreciate that attitude. It does pay off.</p>
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		<title>By: Jorgi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorgi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 09:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very good post Joel. I see it all around me too. Those of us doing well with people skills in tech roles are often also those who have had experience from other non IT tech roles. Having said that, in the last 20 years I think we can also say that the typical IT department has changed a lot. But there is still room for further change in an ever changing industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very good post Joel. I see it all around me too. Those of us doing well with people skills in tech roles are often also those who have had experience from other non IT tech roles. Having said that, in the last 20 years I think we can also say that the typical IT department has changed a lot. But there is still room for further change in an ever changing industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Mario Hipol</title>
		<link>http://www.ldscio.org/2008/03/02/need-a-cio-grow-your-own/comment-page-1/#comment-1777</link>
		<dc:creator>Mario Hipol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 19:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a very enlightening post.  Working as a CTO, I found that I needed to change hats frequently depending on who I was meeting with.  What was easily explained from a technical perspective was not as easy to explain when asked from a &quot;return on investment&quot; perspective.

Executive:
&quot;I understand that more memory will make our software run faster, but how will it make us more money?&quot;

Technical:
&quot;It will allow us to handle more people faster?&quot;

Executive:
&quot;We just need to handle the ones we have without complaints.&quot;

Technical:
&quot;Right, but as we increase sales, we will need more memory.&quot;

Executive:
&quot;So, we will have to buy more memory every time, I hire a sales person?&quot;

I think that each person in the company has a different perspective on what is going on and what is important.  Being able to communicate is definitely what&#039;s important when moving to higher level positions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a very enlightening post.  Working as a CTO, I found that I needed to change hats frequently depending on who I was meeting with.  What was easily explained from a technical perspective was not as easy to explain when asked from a &#8220;return on investment&#8221; perspective.</p>
<p>Executive:<br />
&#8220;I understand that more memory will make our software run faster, but how will it make us more money?&#8221;</p>
<p>Technical:<br />
&#8220;It will allow us to handle more people faster?&#8221;</p>
<p>Executive:<br />
&#8220;We just need to handle the ones we have without complaints.&#8221;</p>
<p>Technical:<br />
&#8220;Right, but as we increase sales, we will need more memory.&#8221;</p>
<p>Executive:<br />
&#8220;So, we will have to buy more memory every time, I hire a sales person?&#8221;</p>
<p>I think that each person in the company has a different perspective on what is going on and what is important.  Being able to communicate is definitely what&#8217;s important when moving to higher level positions.</p>
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		<title>By: Davis Stovall</title>
		<link>http://www.ldscio.org/2008/03/02/need-a-cio-grow-your-own/comment-page-1/#comment-1776</link>
		<dc:creator>Davis Stovall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel, what does your organization do to provide mentoring for those IT professionals who are interested in moving up and preparing themselves for greater roles?

&lt;em&gt;[Joel: I&#039;ll be talking about this in a future post.]&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel, what does your organization do to provide mentoring for those IT professionals who are interested in moving up and preparing themselves for greater roles?</p>
<p><em>[Joel: I'll be talking about this in a future post.]</em></p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Feinberg's Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Feinberg's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the IT consulting world, what many just starting out in the business don’t realize is that business skills and people skills are actually in many ways more important than high-end technical skills.  IT consulting is really first and foremost about developing relationships that will lead to long-term revenue.  While you definitely need to have and further develop strong technical skills to be a good IT consultant, they are not what are going to sell you as a long-term partner for small businesses.  Thanks for the very helpful information about necessary IT consulting skills!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the IT consulting world, what many just starting out in the business don’t realize is that business skills and people skills are actually in many ways more important than high-end technical skills.  IT consulting is really first and foremost about developing relationships that will lead to long-term revenue.  While you definitely need to have and further develop strong technical skills to be a good IT consultant, they are not what are going to sell you as a long-term partner for small businesses.  Thanks for the very helpful information about necessary IT consulting skills!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Starks</title>
		<link>http://www.ldscio.org/2008/03/02/need-a-cio-grow-your-own/comment-page-1/#comment-1771</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Starks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel, I applaud your move to emphasize business and staff skills with your team.  I came from an environment in the military where they pushed both specialized skills and leadership/management.  It helped members to be more effective in the organization and to see in a bigger picture what the organization was about.  I&#039;ve worked to do that with my team members at BYU.  Thanks for taking your time on the blog.  I enjoy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel, I applaud your move to emphasize business and staff skills with your team.  I came from an environment in the military where they pushed both specialized skills and leadership/management.  It helped members to be more effective in the organization and to see in a bigger picture what the organization was about.  I&#8217;ve worked to do that with my team members at BYU.  Thanks for taking your time on the blog.  I enjoy it.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Nelson</title>
		<link>http://www.ldscio.org/2008/03/02/need-a-cio-grow-your-own/comment-page-1/#comment-1770</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 05:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Joel for your thoughts and counsel on this matter, it is something I have been working on as a young IT professional.  My BA and MA degrees were in the humanities and I didn&#039;t get into programming until I figured out that this something I could do to put food on my table and a roof over my family&#039;s head.  After working as an IA for a while and earning a BS in Computer Science, I advanced in my company&#039;s IT department and have been web programming for the last several years.  Although I enjoy programming, I cannot picture myself doing this for the next 20-25 years.  With my eye on moving to management, I have sought ways to improve the skills that you spoke about and have found that to understand the business is so much more important than I had realized at first.  Thanks for giving me some points to focus on, I enjoy reading your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Joel for your thoughts and counsel on this matter, it is something I have been working on as a young IT professional.  My BA and MA degrees were in the humanities and I didn&#8217;t get into programming until I figured out that this something I could do to put food on my table and a roof over my family&#8217;s head.  After working as an IA for a while and earning a BS in Computer Science, I advanced in my company&#8217;s IT department and have been web programming for the last several years.  Although I enjoy programming, I cannot picture myself doing this for the next 20-25 years.  With my eye on moving to management, I have sought ways to improve the skills that you spoke about and have found that to understand the business is so much more important than I had realized at first.  Thanks for giving me some points to focus on, I enjoy reading your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Hansen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re dead on in your analysis and your recommendation of things people in IT need to learn.  I&#039;ve also noticed that our programming team here at work tends to put their time and emphasis on things that are &quot;fun&quot; and &quot;challenging&quot; rather than things that might be &quot;useful features&quot; for our customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re dead on in your analysis and your recommendation of things people in IT need to learn.  I&#8217;ve also noticed that our programming team here at work tends to put their time and emphasis on things that are &#8220;fun&#8221; and &#8220;challenging&#8221; rather than things that might be &#8220;useful features&#8221; for our customers.</p>
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